Comments on: Thoughts on Irate Soccer Moms and the Shortcomings of the Two-Man System http://referees.worldcupblog.org/news/thoughts-on-irate-soccer-moms-and-the-shortcomings-of-the-two-man-system.html World Cup 2006 - Germany Sun, 30 Mar 2008 03:44:34 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Ledford http://referees.worldcupblog.org/news/thoughts-on-irate-soccer-moms-and-the-shortcomings-of-the-two-man-system.html/comment-page-1#comment-159 Ledford Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:52:59 +0000 http://referees.worldcupblog.org/news/thoughts-on-irate-soccer-moms-and-the-shortcomings-of-the-two-man-system.html#comment-159 The Dual System is best! Why? Superior off-the-ball coverage, superior game control (players and coaches respond better to real refs with whistles and cards than to linesmen waving flags), more preventive officiating (players are more aware of referee's presence because there are two), better field coverage to box in play, better goal line coverage, the referees never have anything going on behind them--play is always in front. If one referee worked best, the other sports would copy soccer. Instead, the trend is toward adding officials (e.g., basketball adding a 3rd ref). And yes, of course the two refs in soccer could work together--they do it all the time in the other sports! Diagonal purists need to be open-minded. Once you've been trained in the Dual and try it, it's a beautiful system. The Dual System is best! Why? Superior off-the-ball coverage, superior game control (players and coaches respond better to real refs with whistles and cards than to linesmen waving flags), more preventive officiating (players are more aware of referee’s presence because there are two), better field coverage to box in play, better goal line coverage, the referees never have anything going on behind them–play is always in front.

If one referee worked best, the other sports would copy soccer. Instead, the trend is toward adding officials (e.g., basketball adding a 3rd ref). And yes, of course the two refs in soccer could work together–they do it all the time in the other sports!

Diagonal purists need to be open-minded. Once you’ve been trained in the Dual and try it, it’s a beautiful system.

]]> By: Willard http://referees.worldcupblog.org/news/thoughts-on-irate-soccer-moms-and-the-shortcomings-of-the-two-man-system.html/comment-page-1#comment-158 Willard Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:37:36 +0000 http://referees.worldcupblog.org/news/thoughts-on-irate-soccer-moms-and-the-shortcomings-of-the-two-man-system.html#comment-158 Regarding the Dual Officiating System: Two officials are better than one for getting the calls right. If someone on the line has a flag, don't call them a referee. We all know that they must play a game of "Mother May I?" when it comes to making calls. Two (or more) officials is a successful system in other major sports, yet one-man (i.e. DSC) purists claim the Dual wouldn't work in soccer. I have worked hundreds of games with the Dual System and there really is no problem with getting the calls right, except when I work with an official who is poorly trained in the Dual or who is not fit enough to run the field. Remember: Basketball actually has THREE officials and they are able to work together. No one can argue plausibly that more than one referee could not work in soccer. Regarding the Dual Officiating System:
Two officials are better than one for getting the calls right. If someone on the line has a flag, don’t call them a referee. We all know that they must play a game of “Mother May I?” when it comes to making calls. Two (or more) officials is a successful system in other major sports, yet one-man (i.e. DSC) purists claim the Dual wouldn’t work in soccer. I have worked hundreds of games with the Dual System and there really is no problem with getting the calls right, except when I work with an official who is poorly trained in the Dual or who is not fit enough to run the field. Remember: Basketball actually has THREE officials and they are able to work together. No one can argue plausibly that more than one referee could not work in soccer.

]]> By: Bense http://referees.worldcupblog.org/news/thoughts-on-irate-soccer-moms-and-the-shortcomings-of-the-two-man-system.html/comment-page-1#comment-60 Bense Mon, 17 Apr 2006 10:27:50 +0000 http://referees.worldcupblog.org/news/thoughts-on-irate-soccer-moms-and-the-shortcomings-of-the-two-man-system.html#comment-60 Oh man, I hate your appologetic bragging about the poor refs ;-) Anyways, A single ref is definitely enough. Why trying to fix something that isn't broken? No video evidence, no second ref. The 3rd official was a necessary invention, bu the above things wouldn't be. I can already imagine the news "Two refs in Nicaragua kick each others asses about a disputed penalty". Being honest, espacially in lower leagues, and in yoth leagues anyways, there are far too many bad refs. Some of them are acting god-like cuz their wife doesn't let them at home. As always, I think the most crappy refs are the ones who don't stick to their style of whisteling. I can adapt to a wanker that's calling wrong throw-ins and rewarding yellow for players shaking their heads. But I freak out when a ref rewards a red and later on a yellow for the exact same kind of a foul. I was bullshitted sometimes indeed. As for "entering the pitch too early" I was rewarded a yellow, because the "to be subbed" player wasn't off the pitch - yeah, maybe a meter or two. Oh man, I hate your appologetic bragging about the poor refs ;-)

Anyways, A single ref is definitely enough. Why trying to fix something that isn’t broken? No video evidence, no second ref. The 3rd official was a necessary invention, bu the above things wouldn’t be. I can already imagine the news “Two refs in Nicaragua kick each others asses about a disputed penalty”.

Being honest, espacially in lower leagues, and in yoth leagues anyways, there are far too many bad refs. Some of them are acting god-like cuz their wife doesn’t let them at home. As always, I think the most crappy refs are the ones who don’t stick to their style of whisteling. I can adapt to a wanker that’s calling wrong throw-ins and rewarding yellow for players shaking their heads. But I freak out when a ref rewards a red and later on a yellow for the exact same kind of a foul.

I was bullshitted sometimes indeed. As for “entering the pitch too early” I was rewarded a yellow, because the “to be subbed” player wasn’t off the pitch – yeah, maybe a meter or two.

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